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Sagamore (La Collection) by Lancome is a Woody Aromatic fragrance for women. Sagamore (La Collection) was launched in 2005. Top notes are lemon and bergamot; middle notes are patchouli and vetiver;

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Patchouli Vetiver

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Sagamore (La Collection) Fragrance Reviews

cytherian
cytherian

Sorry, I'm a bit perplexed here. Is this considered a completely new fragrance or is it supposed to have a lot in common with the previous release of Sagamore?

I'm asking this because I see only 4 ingredients listed here. And yet, the previous Sagamore has 19 notes. The author listed top and middle, completely ignoring the base. Was the author too tired to list them all, Lancome was remiss with listing all of the ingredients, or did the perfumer indulge sweet simplicity here?

Jul
11
2014
jtd
jtd

Lavender gives Sagamore a sort of fougère camouflage that it sheds in the topnotes. Very quickly Sagamore shows a complexity, an armful notes of fairly equal intensity and density. It's not muddled, it's complex and deliberate. Its winning quality is an unfussy ambiguity that some of the better masculine chypres such as Hermes' Equipage and Carthusia's Numero Uno share. Sagamore has little sillage after its topnotes and its presence hangs very close to the skin, a trait that perfectly suits it quiet but sharp herbal/floral character.  Sagamore is the anti-dandy and exemplifies the best of the classic gentlemanly chypres.


It's easy to dissect gender in perfumery. If you move forward from the premise that no scent is fundamentally masculine or feminine, then no perfume is intrinsically gendered either. What we're left with is the marketing of the producers and the customs and practices of perfume wearers to inform us about perfume and gender. Accept the status quo or don't. Or change the rules for that matter. There’s a growing underestimation of men in mainstream perfumery that is distinct from the low bar set by many poorly conceived fragrance in the women’s market. For women, it’s the fashion-induced disposability issue: in one season, out the next, with notoriety intrinsically more valued than quality. For men, the low expectation has to do with the implicit assumption that all men want to smell 90% like each other. The other 10% points to that almost unnoticeable distinction that carries enormous symbolic value to the members of the various masculine tribes. Hence Cool Water, Green Irish Tweed, Pleasure’s for Men, Chez Bond. It’s like the businessman’s gamble: the huge range of tie choices, from blue stripe to red stripe, singing out your individuality against a grey suit and white shirt. Current trend tells us men want indistinguishable dreck. History (Fougère Royal, Habit Rouge, Sables, Knize Ten, Guerlain Vetiver, Amouage Gold Man) says otherwise. And so do I. I want Fracas and Havana, Bois de Violette and Yatagan.

Screw marketing and whatever people think of gender. I want excellent perfume.

Nov
30
2012
Grottola
Grottola

Not sure what the hell I was thinking when comparing this to Tom of Finland but basically Sagamore is like Pour Monsieur/Pour Monsieur Concentree. Powdery and sparkly with some fizzy citrus up top. Not bad.

Oct
09
2012
lovingthealien
lovingthealien

What an incredibly perfect chypre. This is soft, woody, and leathery with a delicate balance that just works. A fantastic dry-down waits after the almost as fantastic opening. Just gorgeous!

Sep
23
2012
jtd
jtd

The crossroads of the masculine chypre, where the chypre meets the traditionally male virtues of perfumery doesn't create anything revolutionary but it does give us some brilliant and eminently wearable perfumes. Here's how it works. The chypre is a genre defined by structure: bergamot, cistus, oakmoss. It's the organic chemistry of perfumery: a staggering number of possibilities, an enormous range of outcomes. Masculines fragrances (fragrances made for and marketed to men) are a genre defined by sensibility, specifically timidity. Masculine perfumes are generally Less Than. Perfumer Bernard Chant, known for having created two of the most bad-assed chypres in history, Grès Cabochard and Clinique Aromatics Elixir, describes the tendency. “Men, for a long time, have been afraid to use something too different. They will accept only small departures, small new steps.” Broad strokes here, but fragrances for men are typically diminished versions of women's perfumes, whether in concept, composition or both. An unintended consequence though is that in a thoughtfully considered masculine chypre, Less Than can also mean deliberation, nuance and careful editing.

Take the implicit chiaroscuro of the chypre--its ability to hold opposing ideas in check without blurring or blending. Ask it to speak more conversationally than the dramatic, loud feminine chypres (eg. Estee Lauder's Azuree, Scherrer's Scherrer, Miss Dior.) The result is nuanced fragrances that center on juxtaposition but not outright conflict. Carthusia Numero Uno (sharp but smooth.) Guerlain's Coriolan (handsome and pretty.) Hermes's Equipage (cozy but aloof.) Perhaps the best examples of this 'taming' effect can be seen in the Lauder men's/women's versions of the same fragrance. Aramis 900, an herbal, rose chypre is a quieter, scaled-back version of Clinique's Aromatic Elixir. Similarly, Aramis's Devin is a smoother, less jagged take on Lauder's Alliage. In most cases, diminishing a fragrance to make it palatable to a masculine ego would make me cynical, but I'm upbeat about these chypres. They seem more tailored than butchered. The tailoring imparts a quiet richness that doesn't so much say manly as gentlemanly.

At the top of the chypre heap has always been Chanel's Pour Monsieur. It's held out as the most calibrated, least adorned chypre. Bright but shadowy, citrus/mossy at the start, ambery/sweet and warm later in the day. It reads as strong in that it has a bold, simple overall shape but it has minimal sillage and therefore doesn't seem forceful. It's the pitch-perfect hybrid of clarity from the chypre and the deliberately short reach of the masculine. My only problem with Pour Monsieur is it appears to have suffered at the hands of IFRA induced reformulation. It seems faded. It's like the eau de cologne version of an extrait. At its best it comes off as a tease.

There are plenty of other great men’s chypres available. De Nicolai’s New York bridges the chypre and oriental genres, winding up with the best of each. [Caveat: I’ve just smelled a current bottle, a whispy orange cologne. If it is a true example of the current NY, it is a fatal reformulation.] Aramis by Aramis and Caron’s Yatagan match a chypre base to bold elements like leather, woods and herbs. Etro has the quietly odd yet endearing Palais Jamais, a rubbery, smoky chypre that uses birch tar and bergamot to conjure Earl Grey tea. The cologne-style chypres for men, similar in construction to Chanel pour Monsieur, tend to find an easy balance of the two genres: bright and citrusy (cologne) and skin-scent muskiness (chypre). This appears to have been an ideal of the French mid-20th century masculines, evidenced by Monsieur de Givenchy, Eau d’Hermès and the underestimated Rochas Moustche. All three have a more contemporary English counterpart, Miller Harris’s Terre de Bois, which could be seen as a nouveau chypre with a vetiver base.

And then there’s Lancome's Sagamore. My current favorite men's chypre. Lavender gives Sagamore a sort of fougère camouflage that it sheds in the topnotes. After that it shows the best of the masculine/chypre hybrid. It balances glassy sharpness with quiet. It's distinguished and identifiable, but keeps very close to the skin. It has a sharp floral-herbal edge that gives a cool soapiness. Sagamore shows a complexity, an armful notes of fairly equal intensity and density. It's not muddled, it's complex and deliberate. Its winning quality is an unfussy ambiguity. It was reissued as the only masculine in Lancome's La Collection line. Where Pour Monsieur's lightness is the unfortunate result of reformulation, Sagamore's quiet is intentional and suits the cool, crystalline quality. Sagamore is the anti-dandy and exemplifies the best of the classic gentlemanly chypres. For the man who wants to wear an exquisite fragrance while still following the masculine maxims of discretion/valor and speak softly/big stick, try Sagamore. It’s discontinued but still available if you search.

It’s as if a backdoor was written into male gender software and the masculine chypre is accepted along with the worst of the blanched aquatics, loud/bland aromatic fougère and limp woodies. However it’s avoided the gender censor, the masculine chypre lineage has managed to survive to the present and proves that masculine fragrance has more to add to the world than fresh, sport and cool.

Feb
12
2012
Grottola
Grottola

Sagamore is a masculine, but it could work easily as a unisex.

Another unique scent, more for its structure than its smell. Here's the premise: take Tiffany for Men (or Pour Monsieur Concentree, they're basically the same), and add more citrus up top. Not just that, but also add Tom of Finland by Etat Libre d'Orange. Yes, you heard my correctly. Sagamore is essentially Tiffany for Men/PMC crossed with Tom of Finland's leather/saffron accord. Surprisingly enough, it works great and has a unique smell.

Now, of course, Sagamore came before both of the fragrances mentioned, but if you've smelled them, it should ring a bell. That's probably the closest thing I can compare Sagamore to. A very unique powdery-leather masculine. I'll have to spend some more time with this one before I decided whether or not I'll actually wear it.

Dec
26
2011
sherapop
sherapop

Okay, it's become clear that Lancome is not laying all of its cards on the table. Clearly listed in the ingredients (on the box) of La Collection SAGAMORE is the oh-so-beloved evernia prunastri, yes, that's right: oak moss!

What a splendid composition this is! SAGAMORE opens as a citrus aromatic and seems fairly masculine initially, but from there it develops into a drop-dead gorgeous woody chypre. The patchouli is rather low-key and savory, not sweet. The vetiver and oak moss play very important roles in the drydown, once the more aromatic notes have diffused into the cosmos.

In contrast to CLIMAT, SAGAMORE is more brown than green, and also less floral, but it is truly splendid to sniff. I am very impressed by this collection, which manages to capture the essence of the perfumery of the good old days. And yet, somehow, these creations smell modern and new! SAGAMORE is totally unisex and in fact more feminine than some so-called feminine perfumes, including BALMAIN. Beautiful! Refreshing! Delightful! Endearing! Highly recommended to dry chypre lovers.

Jan
18
2011

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