Thierry Wasser
Shalimar Parfum Initial Guerlain for women
Perfume rating 4.05 out of 5 with 8,564 votes
Shalimar Parfum Initial by Guerlain is a Chypre Floral fragrance for women. Shalimar Parfum Initial was launched in 2011. The nose behind this fragrance is Thierry Wasser. Top notes are Bergamot, Orange and Green Notes; middle notes are iris, Patchouli, Vetiver, Rose and Jasmine; base notes are Vanille, Caramel, Tonka Bean and Musk.
Shalimar Parfum Initial – scent of desires, joy and sensuality arrives in a flacon which reminds us of shape of the traditional edition. The bottle of this edition is taller and sleeker than the previous. It is decorated with blue stopper and blue tassel on the neck of the flacon. Liquid of the flacon is coloured in warm pink.
Composition of Shalimar Parfum Initial is created of citruses, green notes, flowers, woody accords and oriental scents. Starting from citruses, the composition adds zest of bergamot and orange. Rose flowers and jasmine enjoy embrace of woody accords of vetiver and patchouli, while oriental notes of vanilla, white musk and luscious tonka give seductive warmth to the whole composition. Green notes provide a fresher tone to the composition.
Face of the advertising campaign for the new Shalimar Parfum Initial is Natalia Vodianova, photographed naked. These photos are supposed to represent innocence and chastity of woman's body, new Eve. The photos were taken by Paolo Roversi.
Shalimar Parfum Initial is presented to the market in March 2011 as a 40, 60 and 100ml EDP.
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Perfume longevity: 3.77 out of 5.
Perfume sillage: 2.63 out of 4.
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Nuran ali

sarahmil
And now at the European site it is available in the inverted heart bottle: 75ml for €125.
Guerlain really do listen to their customers!!
Big thank you!!

malake
Lorax

carlahoffman
I love the floral notes with the Rose shining through with the dry down of the Parfum which is a creamy light musk with a light woody scent with the vanilla still hanging in there . A dreamy scent that is rich, deep and sensual, I found myself lusting after it. It is very long lasting, you will wake up with this, still holding it projection. Cool looking bottle for my collection. This is a true classic in its own right, it is soft, nicely delicate yet alluring , just beautiful !
Kellergirl

LaContessina
The only great concern is that they discontinued it. A crime.
Nothing like the original Shalimar (that is in my top 10 ten frags anyway) Shalimar Parfum Initial was created to please a younger audience, that's for sure, but not with the usual fruity floral berry mess! Here we have a completely different story. And a pleasant one.
Beginnning: resinous, medicinal in the opening. A balsamic note, like coniphers give a hint of freshness.
Then the classic Shalimar notes: vanilla, amber, and benzoin with a hint of jasmine.
Powdery note, like orris. And this is the end of the Shalimar (original) phase.
Some flowers - roses- some powderyness (=iris).
The story continues with a caramelized note, gourmandish, vanilla-esque in a subtle way: I get a stunning Cuir beluga resemlance here! merging with some white musks. I'd call this phase "Narciso Rodriguez meets a subdued Angel".
Bottom line: this is sexy. Seriously.
The drydown is really getting you hooked.
It's hot, and it's close to skin - not a sillage monster, but it's better this way in my opinion: you have to lean over to get a whiff, and I love when people come close to my neck and inhale...LoL
Back in time I loved it so much upon 1st spraying I bought it on an impulse - after having it working on my skin for 30 minutes.
It was love at first spritz and I knew it was the beginning of a romance. And I very rarely do that. I was so very happy with Shalimar Parfum Initial, and still am that I dare to call it my Signature fragrance for it mirrors well my personality.
Absolutely feminine but not girlish in the least.
Definitely a must try if you're lucky to find it.
I will cherish my 2 remaining bottles as if they were the Pink Panther Diamond.

patxaran
It must have been around 2013 or so that I casually sprayed the tester and took the strip with me inside a shopping bag. How very strange, I thought, they take the grand dame of Shalimar and try to fiddle with it? Are they jumping on the fruitchouli bandwaggon...It struck with as an odd mix of trendy and old worldly Guerlain-ish but I could not make sense of it. So I cannot say I was too keen on SPI as it would later be known. Perhaps I was still suffering from the Coco Mad olfactory overload that was sweeping London around the time. Anyway, a year later or so, I bought a small bottle and it became a like, but not a love. It is not a fragrance I reach for often. Today was one of these days, a snowy winter day in Germany where I live now. And I was uplifted, floating on a cloud of citrus and powdery, lipsticky goodness that never slips into vulgarity. In my home office day dream fantasy, I dreamt about having Tea at the Ritz, with a freshly powdered face, lipstick and wearing smart clothes and eating lovely cakes. And the piano played and conversation was civilised and delightfully careless. Sometimes, we only appreciate the true depth and value of an experience in hindsight. Shalimar Parfum Initial has become an elusive unicorn, a modern classic and holy grail for its aficionados. Treasure it while you can. Good things rarely last.

AquaBaby5
Edit: well this is frustrating, I’m enjoying the smell at hour 4, whereas prior it was definitely bad. The top notes must have gone off but the base is delightful. The question is, do I keep it knowing I have to get through a few hours of unpleasantness? :(

Lalunalynn

Seducianne
Sillage is comfortable and longevity is very good.

Enigmatic
I have picked up a backup bottle of this, as well as the L'Initial, which lacks the peppery vetiver. Other options include MM Lipstick On (much more waxy and sweet, lacks the vetiver) or Dior Homme 2005. I like to layer this with Prada Infusion D'Iris Absolue, a perfume I dislike on its own.
Notes according to my nose (in order of prominence): bergamot, vetiver, iris, lime, hint of vanilla/tonka


catcat42

seamagik
I tried it in all kinds of weather. I thought it would be awesome in the cold. Nope. I love powdery scents but it's like I got caught under a sprinkler and all I get is damp squib.
Finally gave up and passed it on. I preferred the L'eau version right from the start so I still have that for spring and summer.

AquaBaby5


Peeka
Regardless of how you use it, this fragrance opens with a citrus blast.
PI when sprayed onto the skin:
Parfum Inital can come across as intense/medicinal when first sprayed onto the skin, it has an almost tea tree essential oil quality to it to my nose.
As the citruses & the vetiver settle, the florals at the heart start to come through & it transforms the scent info a citric/talcum powder/old-style cosmetic scent. Up close, Parfum Inital at this stage still smells a little astringent, dated, strange & unpleasant. **The key is to smell it from a distance** as after about 20 minutes of spraying the MUCH NEEDED vanilla, caramel & tonka start to show up to the party to smooth those rough edges out somewhat without making the fragrance sweet. When experienced this way Parfum Initial is a stunning, powdery cosmetic scent that I immediately associate with Guerlain.
PI when sprayed into the air:
The citruses are no way near as obtrusive when used this way, in fact, they’re quite refreshing. As the perfume settles onto my clothing I Immediately get a beautiful fresh zing of citrus instead of limes and oranges shoved up my nose & down my throat like when I spray this on my skin. The fragrance quickly changes into a more powdery/cosmetic fragrance & that is what persists. I get amazing wafts of this from time to time & I am really glad I gave Parfum Inital another try. It isn’t one of my usual choices of fragrance, I love sweet florals & fresh aquatic scents so I was a little surprised to find myself sniffing my clothes so often 😂
This fragrance is definitely for those who love citruses & powdery cosmetic smells but it is not a safe blind buy in my opinion because it may be problematic if you like to spray your perfumes onto your skin. If you can, I’d advise you to get a sample/decant before buying a full bottle & try spraying into the air and walking through it first. You’ll be stunned by how beautiful this is.
That being said, Parfum Initial IS discontinued & L’initial has replaced it at a jaw dropping £205 for 125ml so if you are interested in Parfum Initial a decision needs to be made before prices sky rocket.
The remake (L’initial) does not appear to be identical to Pafrum Initial though, the vetiver has gone as has the Jasmine from the heart, replaced? instead by Jasmine petal in the opening. It seems as though L’initial addresses the astringency of Parfum Initial which may have played a part in its sales figures however, the price tag of L’initial is definitely prohibitive so I don’t see this fragrance making Guerlain’s sales any better! Sadly, this version may quickly become discontinued too.

patrishia

SailorV
With Shalimar Parfum Initial, I was additionally hesitant because my mother wore Shalimar for decades. I love my mom and Shalimar is beautiful, but I find it weird to inherit your mother's old signature fragrance.
Well, to make it short, the hype around this is justified, and while it shares some aspects with the original Shalimar, it's different enough to make it wearable for those who don't want to use the original for whatever reason.
The opening is very waxy with lipstick-like iris, thick and creamy, with an underlying vanilla and the same beautiful sparkling bergamot you find in most Shalimar fragrances. The iris is so buttery, almost reminiscent of soft suede.
As it dries down the fragrance becomes more powdery, sweeter and warmer. I don't find the caramel note dominating, this doesn't smell edible at all, it just softens the scent. I can also smell the patchouli and vetiver, both add depth and a hint of cool spiciness that keeps Parfum Initial from turning too sweet or one-dimensional.
It's a dreamy, fluffy cloud of a vanilla and iris perfume and very typical for Guerlain.
I knew I need this when I fell asleep after sampling and dreamt of buying a bottle. When I woke up the next day, I could still smell a light but distinctive skinscent on my arm.
So sad this was discontinued. Now they brought it back under the name "L'Initial", but only as an expensive 125 ml bottle in the exclusive Les Parisiennes line. I think I'll rather try to get a partly used older bottle for a reasonable price.

MnM

Mc1995

lumberjack
...and this damn glamorous bottle as well!
andrewatic
It's already posted on their French version of Guerlain website. So, Initial lovers if you want it to stay go for it and buy it. Otherwise, if the sales are low they will discontinue it again...

saidesses

schneeblume
Marialina
I could not disagree more with those who think it an inferior, juvenile, poor cousin to Shalimar. It is *such* a different beast. The original Shalimar EDP is an absolute grand dame of a scent, powdered, glittery, complex, feather-boa'd and extremely loud.
Initial is less complex, yes, and younger-feeling, yes... but *so* seductive, and so intimate. It's melting vanilla toffee with a hint of bergamot peel, a waft of iris and- the best part- the most beautiful, gently smouldering amber underneath. If Shalimar is the grand dame on stage, this is the undressed flesh after the show, with a hint of sugar and cigarettes and, yes, something slightly bodily, but like the sweetest skin. I couldn't wear Shalimar every day, but Initial I can (and do) wear every night out- this is the scent I love on myself more than any other. Pure happiness.

ChelleBelle84
In the meantime, let’s first get past this COVID-19 pandemic. I pray for everyone’s health. 🙏 Please be safe.

pinktoe
For me comfort smells like iris and powder. And this beauty fits that bill to a t. I wish that what @andrewatic says is true, and that Guerlain is truly bringing it back. We need some good news, and having this available again would truly be good news.
One of my true loves right there.

Fleurpetit
Age wise, Initial would certainly suit a young lady which I certainly am not.. but I wear fragrances to please myself.. I love it.
andrewatic
To everyone who loved this flanker and lamented its discontinuation: Guerlain is re-issuing Shalimar Parfum Initial as part of Les Parrisiennes line!
Hope this helps.

w_nmbo
for Corona virus to be stopped
and
for Guerlain to bring back this, this... I cannot find a word good enough to describe Shalimar Parfum Initial. The perfect iris. The masterpiece. The addictive substance. The ultimately sensual perfume.

ChelleBelle84
Seriously, you go down the page, there are people who want this back. The ones whose chemistry couldn’t wear the original, this was their Shalimar. I’ve been heartbroken ever since this was discontinued! It just didn’t seem fair? Hooray for those who could wear the original without It smelling horribly on their skin, but why should this be taken away simply because the ones who could wear the original didn’t like it? People also didn’t go to the original like expected when this was discontinued because they CAN’T wear it. Personally, I can’t even wear the EDT of the original unless it cold outside. Anything warmer than 55° and it smells like burnt rubber. This, however was wonderful and it made me feel good wearing it. Many others felt the same way.
Guerlain you want to widen your customer base? Bring this back and make it part of the Shalimar Garden again. I even just gave you a way to advertise this! Customers demand it and they’re the reason you have a business.

ReWeegh
Dry down is specifically amazing, citrusy woody spicy vanilla.
This flanker (and Shalimar Cologne) is a good way to have a glimps of Shalimar’s greatness for folks like me whose skin chemistry does not agree with the original (pure burnt rubber:().
Also on its own it is a unique and divine perfume.

ScentSmelling
Is somebody out there who is still selling Shalimar Initial? Pls send me a message if you want to sell one of this. 🙏
+++

D3G
I do agree with most of the reviews including the comments on the flankers, although it makes it affordable, it's really confusing(parfum initial and cologne to me are practically identical-maybe PI more powdery and a bit longer lasting?)
I suppose it's a way to keep alive a fragrance(almost a 100 yrs old, impressive)Still appealing to whom buy on exclusivity and the cheap like me. Personally I think being out for so long and being so popular, it shouldn't cost them much to be produced.

LightOfJoy
A very kind swapper sent me a decant of SPI, and when I initially sprayed it, I thought, "Oh, this is just like all the others." Now, that's not a bad thing. It smelled very similar to Shalimar Cologne on initial spray to me.
However, on drydown it is quite different. Directly on my skin it smells of strong, sweet caramel. Wafting from my chest it smells like a soft pink rose, aside a lily.
Someone mentioned that it was a precursor to Mon Guerlain, and as a lover of that fragrance, I could easily see that as well.
Perhaps this was intended to be an answer to those seeking a lighter, fruitier, sweeter perfume. It does indeed answer that call, but it also stands apart elegantly from the typical fruitchoulis. It still maintains Shalimar DNA and is a respectful nod to it, not a brash departure from it.

dglightblue
i have tred another from this initial line, i think with the pinky fluff on the lid.
this is better on me than the other one, this fragrance doesnt quite do the 'funny citrus..woods... sweat??' thing.
its got an acidicness to it. i think thats what bugs me. i smell it and its lively and lovely, then i smell again straight away and i get the acid happening. grr.
citrus with guerlainaide
powder,
woods,
its overall light, but lingering.
gosh.. maybe its a floral aromatic that im smelling - i like that part.
this isnt an aromatic to me compared to what im used to.
i wonder if its the citrus+woods+aromatics that doesnt work for me.. its just in the "parfum initial" line
its not bad, but its just not 'right'.

Pandarapt
Guerlain will probably re-edit it in a bee bottle as part of an exclusive line with an extra sting to the wallet. But I do hope they bring it back because Shalimar Initial is a heliotropic lemony iris-caramel dream that bubbles the idea of-- luxury velvet wrapping a sensual virtual and complex marzipan that is uniquely Guerlain as much as the drinking champagne while taking a bubble bath in a checkered linoleum art deco bathroom of No.5 is uniquely Chanel.

Dakota22

emily7
Initial bergamot kick is an intro to a sweet and creamy vanilla-praline-tonka heart. Patchouli and vetiver fuzzy texture keep the sweetness under control and make the whole composition more rich and adult smelling.
Drydown lasts forever in a form of sensual "second skin" impression. Prolonged good sillage manifests as the most comfortable, pleasurable, creamy aura which makes Initial stand out as the only possible competitor in a crowd dominated by Coco Mademoiselle - as the one that is less popular but more interesting and even subtly erotic.
One of rare Guerlains - sans actual dirty or animalic note - I really enjoy.

churinl
EDIT: Fragranticians are so generous! I received a decant and just had an offer from someone to also send me one. I agree with the majority here. This is a very beautiful take on classic Shalimar and I love it. Now to find a full bottle that won't break the bank. This deserves a place in the collections of Guerlain lovers, especially Shalimar fangirls/boys.
EDIT 2 - Oh happy day!! I have acquired a partially full bottle for a very low price, especially when compared to the going rate for full bottles on Ebay. This should satisfy my desire for a while.

krukmary

FloraVe

waskotransportation

lexina

mademoiselle-c

paula.billinge.1


yukitanonton

shusha

mariemares
This is definitely an 'initiation' into Shalimar, which I have not yet grown to like. Very powdery but sophisticated,sweet but not cloying, this is a very pleasant fragrance. The longevity is really good and I found it suits a range of seasons too!
I saw a comment that said that 2014 batch is quite different to the original formulation. Can anyone advise if it is worth buying still? I would like to have a backup but don't want any surprises once I open a bottle few years down the line.

SuadKhamis

elmccullar

ecs305

Emera1d

nettoyant
Xenia0504
To me it was clearly a signature scent and I sincerely hope they reconsider!

Olotitan
There Guerlainade Vanilla with the Iris, tonka bean and caramel are just right slightly gourmandish, maybe vetiver but SPI is all about the
Iris their prominent note...
I have both this and the Shalimar si sensuelle and there both equally luscious and alike one citrusy than the other...
What a shame to discontinue these pillars and that it was not given the chance it deserved when it launched.
Maybe it was about timing or promotion whatever it was
Well done Thierry Wasser!
Sillage and longevity are great!
Layer this with Dior homme intense OMG!

JacquieDS

JacquieDS
Dare I say I find it more versatile than the original grand dame?
Love it!

Paula80

comfortablynumb83

mademoiselle-c


sarah.brooks

Violinplayah

bibibling
Unfortunately the caramel in Shalimar Parfum Initial isn't the gourmand kind and doesn't do anything special. Imagine all the notes are a middle school kids in a chorus and caramel is hiding in the back, humming, because he doesn't know all the words of the song.
This is a light, POWDERY version of Shalimar with all the lemony notes toned waaay down. I can see many people loving it but it's just not for me.
I'm mainly writing this review for the blind-buyers: this is NOT original Shalimar + delicious gourmand caramel. If that's what you want, then go smell this first, don't blind buy!
The caramel comes out more in the dry-down around one and a half hours after the first spray, it's a dry, dark, toasty caramel, but it's like the kid who was humming in the back of the chorus, the chorus has stopped singing already and now he's still humming and everyone's staring at him like 'Dammit, George! Try to keep up!' Which is another way of saying, the longevity is poor. By hour 3 it's barely even there at all. The sillage is around 1- 1.5 feet in the beginning but shrinks quickly.
All that being said, just understand I'm comparing this to THE SHALIMAR so even if I'm sounding complain-y or like I hate it, that's not true. I would still buy this over a million other perfumes out there, but in the wide ocean of Shalimar flankers, I like the more lemon-cake-ish versions that come in any of the blue bottles more.

lapis1227

chloematilda
This is not a childish or overly sweet cheap smelling gourmand like so many flooding the market. This is grown up and rich - with incredible projection and longevity. This is what I expect from Guerlain - a perfect blend of notes culminating in a fragrance I love to wear. It's scent lingers on linens and scarves - little reminders of the glorious scent worn yesterday, or the day before.
Few scents are the perfect balance of sweet and earthy, creating an aura that draws people in - asking "what is that beautiful fragrance?".
So, why is it a limited edition? Why has it disappeared? Guerlain must keep it's consumers happy with scents that really work and will fly from it's shelves. It is far better in my opinion than the current formulation of Shalimar EDP, and yet - it's gone. Poof - off in a puff of sweet floral powder. Such a shame. I have my backups, and will use sparingly so I will never be without. I can't imagine an evening of snuggling without this romantic beauty.

RoadtoAvonlea350

ChelleBelle84
Oh yeah, Guerlain brought this beauty back....in a $1300 (16oz or 500ml) “bee bottle” that most people can not afford. Thanks Guerlain! Way to go alienating some of your customer base. I’ll be certain to never buy another Guerlain ever again. Break my heart discontinuing this, and then be so cruel and cold-hearted as to be dangling this over head and out of reach! How mean can you be? Diabolical, I’d say! Never again!
[End of rant]

Neosmiaphyte
ETA: less medicinal than the original, Many have told me they feel it is a more modern, more wearable version of Shalimar. It is assuredly more office and summer friendly. Though I feel if this is your signature scent, you could definitely rock the original for special occasions.

Perfumeaddict777

Aura de le Fae
Ok so a bit dramatic but that is where this fragrance transports me. It is a soft pink, fluffy cloud of heaven. The citruses at the begining are bright and refreshing but I love when they meld into my skin and allow the powdery Iris to come foward. The Iris in this is so beautiful as it has none of that dustiness you find in cheap fragrances. My amateur nose doesn't detected patchouli or vetiver, perhaps they are more of an accord than a note?
This is a real beauty and I wholeheartedly agree that it never should have been discontinued.
rola.asad
I smell a wonderful mix of powder, iris, & a hint of citrus, which gives it a kind of smokiness but a soft kind of smokiness, nothing serious.
sometimes the "powder note" can be easily overpowering but the case here is different!
It is wonderful for summer, really elegant, romantic, special in the market, as well as for me :D

lisieux
This a real gem with great longevity! One of my favorite perfumes that Guerlain never should have discontinued. More people need to get to enjoy this scent!

Sabretoothkitten
While it has a similar initial smoky/ leather and citrus at first, it is less lime zest, more limeade, and is a lot more powdery after an hour. It has a sweet mild vanilla MUSK that's reminiscent of Lolita Lempicka somehow and also a very subtle patchouli barely noticeable unless you look for it. has a more dessert -like aspect than Shalimar original perfume. I'm happy to add this to my collection, my grandma loved the original and I could see her wearing this if she were young today. Moderate sillage which is just how I like it.

Martaynd
COMBO TIP: SI with Le Carven Parfum. 1:2 or 2:2.
malindajoquinn
This scent is warm, powdery and bright. Soft and fuzzy like a cashmere sweater.
Absolutely beautiful.


zsofiaklein
hsheep
I wanted to test it one more time so I bought a small decant and BOOM. There she was. Soft and warm powdered iris, vanilla clouds of poofiness, a bit of smoky seduction. Yep. Instant love, just as I imagined the first time around.
My old bottle was a turned one. Oops.

NixNox
FireFlySF
I love the dry down scent very much. It is very unique and distinctive. I think that is how perfumes should be made: attractive and long lasting.

Vintagelaces
I love that you only need one spray and you'll be surrounded by a cocoon of this yummy goodness.
Danielle79
I really hope they bring this back I have 2 bottles saved but I know I need to get more. I’ve never smelled anything so good. I also love Shalimar and I see the similarities but love the differences. I think the caramel in this makes this so good, it’s sexy, it makes me feel like a woman or how a woman should smell. I adore this and hope one day they will bring this back. I get compliments on this as well. This perfume made me really love and get into Guerlain perfumes and I’m so happy I did!

Dorange Sense
Agree totally with a lot of you reviewers. Maybe the flankerism killed this darling…
So they launched it, kicked off quickly tons of versions of it just to take it down again. Was that an experiment of mass market to see how customers react aka buy?

exciter76
When other people wear perfumes, even perfumes we enjoy, the perfumes go through a sort of transmutation. I have a friend who wears one of my favorite perfumes. I hate smelling it on her—it becomes a musky, sweaty, burly beast of white florals and sugar and I simply want to scream. So I have to accept that perfumes change from one person to the next. That minor epiphany had not come to me yet when I was swearing off SPI. It was sugar and filthy patchouli as far as I could smell. I could not fathom how anyone would want to smell like this.
On my skin, it’s not saccharine and dirty patchouli. It is several layers of gauzy sweetness, powdery florals, and a rich patchouli that was meant to add density at the center of all the diaphanous goodness. The timeless Guerlainade is ever-present throughout, adding another beautiful layer to this scent. It’s deceptively simple until it’s fully worn. Unless you are smelling every delicate layer reveal itself—and it is a slow striptease that goes on for several hours—SPI cannot be fully appreciated.
I’m glad I came around before this gem was discontinued. And why the heck was it discontinued? I’ll never understand it. It has a cult following and the potential to become as iconic as Shalimar, Mitsouko, or L’Heure Bleue. Whatever, I have a stockpile of bottles to satisfy me for at least a few years. Maybe in that time SPI will be brought back to the masses? Just because there is an oversaturation of fruitchoulies and sugar bombs on the market doesn’t mean there isn’t room for SPI.

OmarAladdin
Enjoy this masterpiece from time to time!

UnearthlyApothecary

verasdfghjkl

pavla.vackova

CeeLeeBee

Aria Grace
Yes, am I a Guerlain junkie! Why yes indeed I am! I love Shalimar and most all it's flankers. Initial brings out the happy, soft , loving side of me. It has confidence, it's has warmth like a loving hug, it's flirtatious, it's soft, it's joy wrapped up into a bottle. As everyone says, so sad it's discontinued, but do not be sad just yet, there is still plenty in the market place to purchase. The sillage in this gem is moderate, the longevity is average. What is special is that sprinkle of caramel, it sets it apart from some of the other Shalimars. Just that pinch of sweetness makes for a pleasant day of smelling divine. Get your hands on this beauty while you still can, it's just beautiful!

corkscrewcurly
I read your review of YSL Cinema earlier today; here's an extract:
"This is my go to juice when I want to invite a chick to my pad. Women love this scent and this is like baby making juice in a bottle.
I usually play Adele in the background when chicks come over, and display my recycling bins right at the entrance, in full view, and oh sweet baby Jaysus are they impressed. Works great on exotic foreign girls too, so don't worry if their immigration documentation is current or not, it's all good.
This scent is a nice woody masculine scent, close to RL Polio pour homme.
For American girls I pair this with pizza/merlot but for the foreign chicks I've found fried cous cous works better with carbonated bottled water.
Guys, trust me this is a huge panty hose dropper and so be careful.
Rating: A+
Longevity: All night long, we're talking performance here.
Projection: 6 inches (I'm told that's about average; besides women say men worry more about that stuff than women do)."
It was so ridiculous, I checked out the rest of your reviews and discovered that most of them have this theme - as does this review of PI.
Presumably you are writing these "reviews" for your own entertainment; I doubt very much anyone else is entertained as you keep repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over...
This isn't funny; it is just tiresome, juvenile and boring - and potentially offensive.
Please stop.

KarlekLila
I left a review further down the page. The L'eau and Si Sensuelle are in fact the EXACT same fragrance as released in a statement from Guerlain. The only difference is the bottle. Companies do this to see how easily manipulated the public is, imagining they smell a different scent when it is the same scent in a fancy bottle. And frequently they are proven that such marketing schemes work since the public shells out big bucks for the fancier bottle.

supertw94109
I feel the reason that there is no clarity is because the sweet base is very dense and fudgelike and not effervescent or airy enough to show off the special Shalimar like qualities to the fulless. Will be ordering the L'Eau and the Si Sensuelle ones to compare. This one seems a bit heavy handed.

Nicole5678
ibrahiemo
شاليمار
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pallida

Blueflowers
And the IRIS....wow. One day I'd love to stick my head in a barrel of orris butter and keep it there, sniffing in frenzied joy, until someone starts yelling.
Of course it's been discontinued. I'll be in a corner sniffing my wrists and sighing for a bit.
My tiny kingdom, my heart and soul for a re-issue.

kati77
I do not have a comparison to the original it is definitely better to try them first. I do not buy a full bottle, I just had a sample.

Violinplayah
Self-Propelling Fantasy
No one does patchouli like Guerlain. It's very smooth and clean in this composition. The iris and vanilla add a sweet, powdery softness. The citrus gives it some sparkle.
It lasts on the skin for several hours, with soft sillage that floats around you like a pink cloud.
I think this is great to wear year round, formal or casual occasions.
It's really a shame that Guerlain chose to discontinue this. I will be bitterly disappointed when my bottle is finished.


anita2251
Rengetegen szeretnénk megvásárolni!!!
Indítsák újra a gyártást!!!!

ChelleBelle84
Please listen to your customers and provide what we request.

Neuphoria
Lo and behold, I found this beauty. A softer, powdery version of Shalimar.
I'll always love Shalimar Initial for introducing me to one of my favorite perfumes which is Shalimar. I'm now confident enough to wear Shalimar but I miss her baby sister :(
Oh, she was gorgeous. I wish they'd bring her back.

pinkpinion
That were my first excited thoughts of this fragrance. A little while later I repeated it again, now with a sarcastic undertone. This fragrance is great, but why do I have to crave this discontinued fragrance out of all the perfumes available? Sigh.
Ok, so let's get back to this shalimar initial. The original shalimar is an iconic perfume, yet like other icons such as Chanel no 5, is not a good fit for everyone. In my opinion the original is incredible but also something I don't see myself wearing just yet. To me, this initial ticks all the boxes. It is not something ordinary, it is still special and clearly a high-end perfume. However this one, is fresher, light and wearable. It is smooth and gracious.
Lucky, lucky me was able to buy this gem in 40ml second hand online for a steal. (Made my week !) It will probably become more and more scarce the coming years, so grab it while you still can.
Tiger84


JamesAQ4


JamesAQ4


JamesAQ4
Minnie02
My first impression is that everyone is right, this fragrance is divine, unique, wearable, lovely. It's vanilla and powdered sugar with a hint of citrus, plus a little "je ne sais quoi." For the first hour or so, I just sit happily in my little cloud of heaven.
My only (small) complaint is the longevity. On me, after an hour or two, it becomes a skin scent, and after three to five hours, it is almost completely gone. Considering it is discontinued, I don't really want to have to reapply 2-3 times a day!
NOTE: For those who hate patchouli, this one is an exception. It is barely detectable, if at all.

Betsywoolbright

Suomineito

amanda7

shauna.parra
Notes: Citruses, Rose, Iris, Vanilla, Musk, Vetiver, Caramel, Coumarin, Powdery Notes.
Sillage: Moderate
Longevity: Moderate
Initial is a really beautiful and very feminine perfume. The bottle is a vanity dresser table show-off. This is a flanker for Shalimar which is far more mature and complex as an Oriental. This perfume's a boudoir baby. Total boudoir. The opening is a soft citrus with bergamot orange, the same kind of citrus opening as Shalimar and all the flankers including the eau de cologne, toilette and reformulated parfum. This is a much more subtle citrus though with a distinct rose scent, and a powdery iris, so yes very floral from the start, but the whole thing is based on iris.
Initial is feminine with a capital F. This is a cosmetic scent. Just like lipstick, make-up, and suede shoes leather shoes jackets and handbags, clutches purses shoulder bags.. Reminds me of being inside a walk-in closet or wardrobe; you know what I mean, a separate room for your clothes, shoes, accessories and cosmetics. It's like the interior of an expensive townhouse or mansion where you have a room just for you to get ready for your day or evening. The powdery notes are usually not my bag but here the powder isn't too strong and smells a lot cleaner, sweeter and simpler with a vanilla flavor and caramel. This delicious caramel and vanilla combination is so pretty.
The dry down is musky but not big on musk. The fragrance is designed to be very modest and tiny like a compact make-up kit. The only problem I have with it is that it's too lightweight sometimes and disappears fast on my skin so I need to constantly reapply. Other than that this is a very gorgeous high end perfume. This is very French and lady like, a tad on the mature side but that's not a bad thing. Smells great on my collar blouse and neck, just above my breasts and behind my ears and under my hair. This is a sweet perfume and like others have stated makes a good intro to Shalimar and Guerlain perfumes. My guess is if you wear Guerlain Petite Robe Noir line you can wear this. It's in the same category of girly and sweet perfumes. Perfect for a date, or for a job interview for a formal evening but not for casual every day use.

cupcake28

_christine_
Kudos go to the people who designed the product - the elongated shield bottle, tassel, soft blue cap and pink juice are elegant and perfect.
If you find Shalimar to be too much, then this could be your perfect gateway into the Guerlainade. For me, it's a bit of aletdown. I started wearing Jicky when I was 14 - I don't want dimmed-down versions of Shalimar. I want Guerlain to produce fragrances with full measures of intensity.
Germanblonde

emt1986
PI opens a cool, citrus-y iris on me, and almost reminds me of Infusion d'Iris Absolue for a minute, with a waxy, lipstick-like vibe. Soon it gets sweeter and warmer as the base notes begin to reveal themselves, and it takes on a fluffy, gently powdery tone. Here it is beautiful, and I did a quick search on Ebay thinking that if I loved it still in a few hours, I'd snap it up. However... the "Guerlinade" in the drydown is just too noticeable and it just barely wrecks things for me. Guerlinade and I do not get along well, and if it is too prominent, as it is here and in L'Instant EDT (but not in LPRN Couture and Shalimar EDC), I find that I have to force myself to wear it as I find it cloying and sometimes headache-inducing.
Overall, this is a worthy Shalimar flanker, a modern, yet grown-up and sensual, take on the original. While it isn't 100% for me, I can easily see why it is so beloved.

ellebunny
Shalimar Parfum Initial opens with some sparkling citruses, not unlike the current Shalimar Cologne. It is fresh, sweet, and tangy, completely different from the original Shalimar's sharp bergamot that is almost an assault to the nose due to its potency and bitterness. SPI is definitely a powdery perfume, which is 'lipstick'/cosmetic-like in quality and if it were a colour, it would be a girly pink. The 'pinkness' does give off the same vibe as V&K Flowerbomb, although they do not smell alike at all asides from the sweet notes. The powderyness of the fragrance is definitely from its sumptuous, buttery iris, which is deliciously glazed in a soft caramel reminiscent of the one in Prada Candy (read: classy and musky). Although sweet, SPI is almost gender-bending at certain stages due to the vetiver and albeit very soft patchouli in it, which keeps it grounded and gives greater depth to the composition. It is no surprise that this perfume is compared to the more 'metrosexual' Dior Homme Intense, which shares similar notes. The hay-like tonka bean accord (coumarin) is in synergy with the vetiver note and gives it roundness. Shalimar Parfum Initial pretty much smells like a iris-caramel lollipop which grows to be more vanillic quality and has more of that Shalimar creme brulee deliciousness in the drydown. The longevity of this perfume is awesome, as it lasts at least 8 hours on me with heavy sillage.
When I first smelled this perfume as a noobie, I could instantly recognize it as a Shalimar flanker but I'm not so sure anymore. They do share a lot of similar notes, but Parfum Initial is a completely different animal. Yes, they're both powdery vanillas with citruses at the top and share the legendary Guerlainade DNA, but it stops there. The original Shalimar is a lot skankier with its leather, civet, incense, and a smoky vanilla. Shalimar Parfum Initial is the clean, frou-frou pampered princess of the two. This is by no means a criticism as I prefer Parfum Initial personally as it's easier to wear over the Shalimar EDP, which is highly dramatic.

Yessamin

meliecat
I think it`s the iris and caramel combo that does the trick here and powder with bergamot and patchouli ascending above them. Very seductive scent, I`ve been told at work to keep this for home..;-) I think every girl should own it at least once in their lives.

UnearthlyApothecary

blake.lee
ETA, I've had this on for a few hours now and the silage and longevity are incredible. It also doesn't change much after the first hour and I love this about it. It's still sweet leathery iris and caramel. Sexy powder! Makeup, leather and strong, joyful woman. It does feel animalic but nothing like the original. I find it so much more universally lovable than the original, new life into a very dated and difficult to wear perfume. I'm only sad I waited so long to try it.

TanteSimone

Siv55

Uni-Scent
Scent: 9 / 10
Projection: 7 / 10
Longevity: 8.5 / 10
Feli15
Mr Wasser did an amazing job here. It still has Shalimar DNA but more wearable with caramel, patch and musk to make it more modern.
I cannot express in words my feelings and how much pleasure it gives me to wear this beauty. I'm on my last few ml left in the bottle and it breaks my heart I can't even find it online anymore.
You should've stoppped at this Shalimar flanker because it was done masterfully and respectfully to the past, and leave it to its small club of SI fans. You can continue milking the money from countless LPRN iterations, I don't mind.
LouPoetka
What can I say... Shalimar eludes me once more. Just like the Shalimar EDT, I found this to be yet another powder bomb, only sweeter. On me it smells like talc - a ton of Iris with the merest hint of Lime and a great deal of sweet. It's not even vanilla, it's just anonymous sweet.
I am really disappointed by how my nose seems to deny the Shalimar family its glory. I do not blame the perfume, but honestly... all I can smell is sweet talc. Granted, a talc scent that stays for a long time.
angela_martini

clariella
To me this is a beautiful fragrance, and as many have pointed out it is the little sister of the original Shalimar. Lighter and easier to wear, but still dark and mysterious enough for me to have become a favourite at night and in winter time.
Loads of lovely vanilla, powdery iris, rose and a pinch of gorgeous patchouli. Worth mentioning is that I like it more in the drydown than I like the initial slightly citrusy notes. Lasts reasonably long on me, but not as loggas the mother fragrance.
Over all a lovely scent that I hope they would bring back at some point.
ruxandra.balasu

gatsby
Beaufort
I know that the L'Eau version has been discontinued.

snoopyQ
It was really hot like 35/40 degrees, and sweat pearls were crowning my brow.
Me and my brother were entering the mall and me, in my obsession, went straight to the perfume shop, grabbed the tester bottle and sprizt this on me.
I think I sprayed once, maybe twice....
After doing so my brother and I went and sat to have a coffee and discuss a variety of things....
And thoughout our conversation I got whafts of the most beautyful powdery sweetness hanging in the air. God I smell good I thought!
All I basically can remember is that it smelled extremely pleasant
This is a very vanillery powdery scent.
It has a very big sillage and excellent longevity!

dglightblue
I tried only in a tester, but it has something old, or perhaps classic is a better term. Chanel doesn't suit me either, so perhaps it's from a family I don't warm to.

mishlava3000
Beware though, this isnt AS beautiful or timeless as Shalimar EDT. (Ive only sampled the two so far). However this does not detract from its loveliness.
The close is continuous creamy vanilla. I would be thrilled to recieve this as a gift.
Sillage is soft on me and I look forward to experimenting on less temperate days to see how it performs.

Mojan
Mr. Wasser, Shalimar Parfum Initial for me is the extract of love, beauty, seduction, kindness, happiness, harmony and perfection blended masterfully with your magic hands and poured in a bottle. I could have lived happily with only this one scent for the rest of my life if I had to. I imagine myself swimming in this perfume, I imagine myself being in paradise and having wings with this perfume. This is the only perfume I have stocked up greedily so as to postpone the day I'd be without this masterpiece in my life. This is one of your greatest creations if not The Greatest. Shalimar Parfum Initial was your love letter sent to modern women and your artist soul has been succeeded to convey your feelings so beautifully and so masterfully. I'd be forever thankful to you for presenting your love to us and also for making my day more beautiful by wearing it. I know you are as sad as we are to see it go away, but let us just hope they would realize they have made a mistake and bring it back to us. Not everything is profit after all.

TattooGypsy
I can understand an inexperienced nose finding this perfume to be strange or difficult to get at first. It's a complex perfume which was marketed incorrectly-the 'young' crowd will not instantly spray and love this like they do most mainstream scents!
To me this is a masterpiece of perfumery. The drydown is where it's at with this (although I love it from top to bottom). You have to give it time to bloom. I imagine skin chemistry is important here as well. Fecal? as if! Barnyard? as if! lol Synthetic-no way! Noses are a funny thing.
This perfume is still something I want in my wardrobe forever and sits on my top shelf of favorites!


dorothea333
I thought the notes in this perfume sounded really wonderful- but it is always good to do a little closer reading, and then I came to you review, my god you made me laugh so hard.
I am still curious though :-)

fyrewoman
My story stems from a vacation i took in 2004 to Disney World. The most convenient source of perfume shopping (with my jam packed itinerary) was within my luxery hotel resort. I wanted the full fletched tropical experience in Disney so i wanted to be in a cloud of coconut at that time. Each store was filled with clothes and accessories and not much perfume selection. The sales lady assisted me and suggested Shalimar edp. I was like "woah, not for me, especially right now". I was 24 yrs old and in humid 88° F weather so wasn't ready for a blast of Shalimar and swore that perfume off my list ever since.
Parfum Initial lacks that strong smokey incense mixed with leather that i was/am not ready for. This one here is a boudoir scent that is near to a vintage cosmetic powder with vanilla. Delightful. I am getting a fb so that i can layer with Dior Home and Dior Homme Intense to veer the lavendar away that tends to give me a headache in Dior Homme.
This is an elegant perfume for a woman. It can be a classy one for a man as well. Not a baby powder, much more mature and complex than that. My favorite is the opening.

redskyatnight
The first spritz and drydown of Parfum Initial are a little scary with a sort of haunting, icy blue iris and deep musk. Then the caramel warms things up, its salty aspect speaking to the chilly top notes but drawing them into warmer, tamer lands. The powder accord is unlike anything else I've experienced, lending a smoky, incense-ash quality. For the first half hour, the whole thing has a Victorian boudoir aura, complete with velvet accents, damask wallpaper, and lots of maroon and dark wood everywhere. Then it lightens and becomes chic and modern, yet timelessly beautiful. It's warm and powdery with a little mystery.
Completely a winter or late fall scent to me, for a mature woman (insert your own definition for that) or, I might say, a maturing woman. For the first half hour it has the potential for offending as much as tempting, so wear prudently. Personally I have a hard time with musk, but this is the first truly musky fragrance I've been okay with. I spray on the decollete so it gently wafts up and leaves me in a wonderful mood. After a few days of wearing this, I have fallen in love. So. Hard.

bramebelle
I've only been wearing it for an hour, but I believe I'll be getting this instead of one of the others.
Totally Shalimar-light. Musk, vanilla and just enough of the darker elements. First time I've smelt the soapiness in a Shalimar on me. Loving it all. Yay!!!
Edit: 13 hours in I'm still loving every minute. I've had a reasonably active day, and I keep getting these wafts of scent and think, "oo, what's that warm, yummy smell... oh, it's me!" Hooked. :)
Re-edit: Stoopid me didn't realise the lingering scent was only on my bracelet where the cheeky sales lady had deliberately sprayed. Another try and while I still love the scent, it lasts less time that Shalimar Cologne on my skin! Back to the drawing board...

lambo33

emyalda
Ive never expected any strong animalic smell from these notes but it is definitely there.
At times i really love this and think it smells really classy. But then i will catch a whiff of it that comes off a bit fecal smelling.

Meremere
I've come back to it three times, because surely my sense of smell must be broken.
To my nose, this opens with a primordial SCREAM of butane citrus with a dab of car exhaust. It makes me scrunch my nose in recoil and cough. Then the drydown is a synthetic lemon/floral/powder leftover from 1910.
For me, this is Dante's 4th ring of perfume hell.

James99

Jose Marcos

James99

sandrichmilinovich
I got recommendation for this perfume so I reached it from my bag. This is someone's mom perfume for sure.
I spray it all over room, and when my mom came in living room she was like ''This is Chanel 5?'' and I was like ''No, this is Shalimar''.
Now she is hooked on Shalimar, a woman who wore Chanel Mademoiselle for around 15 years.
Its for strong and classy woman, after 40s.

gfarias848
Shalimar Parfum Initial smells like a really expensive lipstick covered with makeup powder... I also picked Tonka Bean and Caramel in the composition, that makes the fragrance sweet in a certain way. Lipstick and Caramel candy I can resume. Beautiful, very French, romantic, retro... It's glorious for who loves powdery fragrances.
Oh and the bottle it's too die for with that sapphire-blue stopper and tassel. Très romantique.

MrsPress
Edit: I have completely changed my mind on this. I tried it again years after this review and fell in love. Disregard everything I said. Lol

mschnabel666
Now I tried PI.
OMG, I love this. Haha! It's not the gourmand gooey foodie sweetie that I usually fall for, but I'm in love with this. I must stock up whatever the price may be!
This reminds me of JPG Classique's anise and powder mixed with L De Lolita's creamy spicy orange vanilla. PI is divine!
I get a very strange anise opening. But that quickly disappears and the "L de Lolita" like scent remains: spicy orange vanilla creamy musky. Then it dries down to vanilla powder.
I have the L'eau on order now, but I'm not sure if I'll love it as much. It appears to have toned down what I adore about PI.
PI to me is somewhat dated/vintage/old lady but for me-- that is what makes PI unique. I wore it on a very hot day, and I barely left the house, so PI wasn't a huge sillage/potent bomb, which I wanted it to be. But it does melt into me, and I got light skin scent whiffs throughout the day. I'll try in different temperatures and different clothes (perfumes always melt into my dry-yet-oily skin and disappear).
I plan on selling off some other scents from my collection to afford to stock up on PI! YAY!

tandaina
As of right now this is horrific. The original Shalimar is difficult on me because I don't like powder and she's a powder bomb. But at least she's *pretty* she's just too powdery for me.
The opening of this one is a raw blast of horribly artificial and incredibly sharp and over the top citrus notes. It's bad pez candy mixed with something medicinal. : If you're like me you'll have to hold your nose and wait for about 10 to 15 minutes for that initial opening to fade.
Once that fades I get a vague scent of powder and something fresh that I can barely smell. Disappointed.

Neckromancer
I also don't spray it directly on my nose. That would be silly.

janeofdoe
I can bear the good reviews no longer. I must have this for my collection. Blind buy, here I come! I'll come back and edit with my review once I've tried it. I can't wait!
Edit: I totally understand why this is discontinued. This is verrrrryyyy over rated in this forum. It's "nice".....not brilliant. Please try shalimar cologne edt (with the pinkish hue juice) for a much better version on this.
epg

gtabasso

Perfumeaddict777

Perfumeaddict777

TillyWave_archive
I love iris perfumes, if there is supposedly a discernible iris note in a perfume I will pretty much buy it on the spot. Iris as an accord can come across as floral, clean/floral, woody, rooty, or powdery--or some combination thereof. The iris in Shalimar Parfum Initial (SPI) is kind of a new one for me, it is utterly smooth and buttery. It smells like a million bucks. When I wear this perfume I can almost visualize a thick sheet of actual iris butter draped over the other perfume notes and my skin, it is that luscious. While the iris in the SPI flankers is decidedly floral and powdery, this iris is smooth and creamy, and not powdery at all. The floral notes come from the discreet rose and jasmine notes.
I can't smell the vetiver at all, and the patchouli is pretty quiet--it's woody and a tiny bit camphorous, and lasts through the top and heart notes.
There is a bit of leather going on in here too--it seems to live in the top/middle notes, it is decidedly strong along with the bergamot/citrus. It smells like a combination of licorice, anise, and leather. The leathery anise note lasts for a few hours, until the perfume becomes full of vanilla and tonka beans as it dries down to the base.
This lasts for about 8 hours on me and is not too strong at all--it wears a bit close to my skin but I think it leaves a nice hint of a scent trail.
I avoided this perfume for a few years because I really don't like gourmand perfumes, I especially do not like candy notes. The caramel scared me off. To my surprise, the 'caramel' note is but a complimentary sweetness that lays under the iris for most of the life of the perfume. I can describe it no other way. It is not cloying or saccharine, and thankfully does not smell like a bag of Brach's Caramels. Yet it does lend to the whole sweet/decadent/desserty vanilla thing that the original Shalimar has in her base anyway.
Then the last question, does it smell like Shalimar? It smells like the idea of Shalimar, in the way that MANY perfumes will remind you of Shalimar if you've been sampling for awhile. What's here--bergamot/leather? Check. Rose/jasmine in the heart? Check. A gorgeous vanilla dessert base? She has that. Shalimar lurks everywhere, it seems. So I guess it fits as a 'modern interpretation of Shalimar or whatever, but still,
I am disappointed that Guerlain just didn't give SPI and SPI L'Eau (which I also love!) their own perfume identities. They seem to have a huge following, they are well made perfumes, and they smell like they had a lot of thought AND quality perfume ingredients in them. I just don't understand why they are d/c'd already.


wootforDOLCE&GABBANA
Ariana.b
Then the magic happend when I received a sample and I was charmed by the complexity of the fragrance. The beggining may be a little bit harsh, but after it settles onto the skin you can feel the vanilla, the caramel, that modern vibe which is gorgeus. I will say this is my favorite sweet perfume because is different from other gourmandy fragrances, it keeps the DNA of the original, but it's more "wearable" ourdays.
I am so sorry it was discontinued, I have a 100 ml bottle but I'm really thinking to buy another one, only to know that it will always be in my collection.

Madrona
po
The candied bergamot/licorice opening is especially fleeting and then comes my favourite part; a gorgeous waxy lipsticky iris which is warm and almost caramelized/chewy. At times I do get the fruitchouli vibe which is supposed to attract the Flowerbomb loving audience but it's still one of the most elegant of the kind. Things get borderline boring as the iris waves goodbye and dries down to a creamy base which relies heavily on musk, vanilla and tonka bean. Fortunately the Guerlinade peeks through and saves the day.
Overall I'm pleased to have a bottle of Parfum Initial; it's a well made fragrance, the transparent glass bottle with the fleshy/blush liquid and the blue tassel are very esthetically pleasing but ultimately I can't say it's a masterpiece. As I perceive it would be perfect for a fun night out with the girls! Oh, and if you have the chance also try the body lotion which has excellent texture and is very faithful to the actual scent.
Liandri

Kayse
My first few spritzes out of the bottle were horrible, like a soiled diaper wipe.
I mentioned to the Doctor that I suspect the perfume in the straw was reacting with the plastic. It seems that perfumes often smell strange for the first few spritzes.
He says that anything delivered through a tube in medicine is always calculated to account for the (new) plastic absorbing a portion of the liquid. Hmmm.
Thank goodness, this stunning bottle is staying in the collection!
This is a very sexy perfume.

TattooGypsy

joenick68

Southern Blonde

DamonAlbarn
The previous review that compared it to Coco Mademoiselle was just looking at the fact that both of the juices are pink, Parfum Initial is a lot more smoky and complex and lasting. Almost a skin scent for those who love the powdery and smoky scents that Guerlain is so, so good at making.
Please hate this perfume, scream from a megaphone all night long about how much you hate it. Hang a banner from your house. It'll drive down the cost on eBay so I can have all the bottles to myself.
P.S., getting compliments about how good someone's pillows smell the morning after is literally the best compliment ever.

bushonka
Guess what ... it does not smell like Shalimar just because it's NOT Shalimar. This is not done to smell like Shalimar simply because Shalimar already exists. And of course as a perfume with a different smell, bears a different name. And does it make any sense launching of a new perfumes, if they smell in the same way as the old ones? Shalimar Parfum Initial shines with its own star, and not made to displace the great Shalimar.
PS: And personally me, I do see the connection between this and the original.... That burnt smoky vanila.
Rissatish

tuky
Parfum Initial certainly has the respect of the old Shalimar with a touch of modern gentlewoman.
Young zest of citrus, powdery romance of iris, feminine classy rose and modern sugar free, but old vibe of Shalimar`s vanilla.
Wear this parfume in the name of a melancholic woman who waches dramatic to future.

Neckromancer

Addict2Perfume

CorneliaL
the drydown is yummy and warm in the winter - I love sniffing myself
the strong Iris topnote I was not as in love with right away - but now I crave it - yah - addicted -

brebtalka40
Originally, I tested it during a wrong season and did not like it much. – Many apologies! During the recent wet cold days, I gave it another chance and found out it was a real gem.
Shame on its producers to have discontinued it!

ellina1984
The notes I get are the following: sugared bergamot, iris, tonka, leather, musk. I think this is distinctly Shalimar-ish, even though I have to admit it is a far cry from the bracing top citrus and rich leather-vanilla base. However, the similarity is definitely there and I can see why PI is considered by the house of Guerlain an initiation to the original Shalimar. This is infinitely more wearable in an everyday office setting. Sprayed lightly, it will not offend - if you overspray, the leathery base (no leather in the pyramid, I wonder why?) will be too much.
I guess this follows in the footprints of the current sweet - candy - easily digestible trend, but PI, to me, definitely stands apart. It is still bold, in its distinct bergamot and sleek leather. Not for a teen graduating from body sprays to real perfume.
Well, this has already been discontinued, so I will enjoy the bottle I now have, although I do feel a bit sad the beauty of PI has not been appreciated.


jacmac

TillyWave_archive
Anyway it's not much of a review but I do like this perfume a lot, and I like the L'Eau even more, and I think it's a shame that someone's work of art is already gone. PI seems to have plenty of fans, what kind of sales were LVMH expecting right away anyway? Like other mediums sometimes it takes awhile to create a following...
ETA--Oh, and I count 17 editions of Petite Robe Noire. Since 2009. Are our perfume attention spans really that short? When I find a great perfume I tend to want to hold onto it for dear life...

ChelleBelle84
Oh yeah, there are still bottles to be had online, IF they're authentic. Once those bottles start to dwindle down, prices will sky rocket. To say I'm angry is putting it mildly! I'm getting quite tired of discontinuation of fragrances. If it is not the IFRA, it's perfume snobs trash mouthing fragrances to discontinuation taking people's joy away. The cruelest and meanest thing you can do to a fellow perfumista. I could not wear the original Shalimar. I suppose those posting horrible reviews didn't think about that, did you? I could wear this. Well now, "MY" Shalimar is gone. So very glad you still have your original Shalimar and not have to feel disappointment as I (and others) feel. Please remember it's not all about you when posting reviews.
[cries]


KateInDC
neniox6

adice

SlimjadeyMeme
But from this, I believe I get exactly what is intended by Guerlain, and that is a slightly gentler introduction to Shalimar. But it definitely has the same essence as Shalimar to me, just not quite as heavy.
This is a fragrance that I don't love, but I do feel like I could grow to love it and then grow into Shalimar. It's just so different to my nose that it seems to be an acquired taste. Not regretting my purchase, but I will need some time to get to know it better.


habibhafsi
the price : good to moderate
the scent:at the opening is very dry and strong , reminds me of dior homme (the regular and the intense version) but then it settles down for a baby powder scent , the most expensive and sophisticated baby powder ever.
am a man and i like that a lot ( more masculine than DHI)
no similarities to original shalimar
+++ i can see a huge link to l'homme ideal in the dry down
it might be my nose

KarlekLila
As with many a Guerlain perfume a little goes a LONG way! Thus the full 3.3 oz bottle will last a long time. The sillage on this baby is monstrous! (I was told by several people in my house they could smell my perfume before I even came down the stairs)! The perfect autumn fragrance. I own both the L'eau version (edt) & the edp and find them quite similar, though the edt is a bit lighter for summer.

ClairaNoir
The sillage is a joke, but the longevity is good.


lalondem
I have to say I was never a big fan of the original Shalimar, just too heavy oriental for me (incense, musk tonka bean) just too much. But this one! Oh so soft and light powdery ,iris,vanilla and very ,very light on the patchouli....(all those heavy patch perfumes are really starting to get to me-and I do have a few myself).
I just want to lay down and keep smelling this soft peaceful scent, makes me feel like a little baby wrapped in soft material. Lol A definite love for me.

Mastane
شروع کار بسیار تند و تیزه و اما بعد از چند دقیقه وقتی به قلب کار میرسیم یه رایحه پودری خیلی لوند و دلربا احساس میکنیم ، یه سمفونی زیبا از نت زنبق و وتیور که یاس و رز و نعنا هندی همراهیش میکنن .حضور زنبق خیلی پررنگه همچنین نعنا هندی مثل همیشه کار تکمیل میکنه اما رز و یاس فقط سرک میکشن و خجالتی هستن .عطر زنبق خیلی غالب میشه و در نهایت نت پایانی کار که شامل کارامل و وانیل و مشک و تونکاس .
البته من بیشتر کارامل و مشک رو احساس کردم .
در کل کاری جذاب و زیبا و ور خور بانوان شیک و با کلاس که خواهان عطری مدرن اما با اصالت کلاسیک و جسورانه هستند.
سن استفاده ترجیحا 25 به بالا

lumberjack
How can you discontinued this gem ha how! It's like a star right now for me that i'm gonna dream of every single damn night...

DamonAlbarn
Not a bombardment of artificial approximations of tropical fruits and flowers that blasts you as quickly as it disappears in shades of lime green and turquoise and fuchsia, but... this. Rich, thick, creamy, under the radar. Your skin but better.
Lately I've been into spicier, more loud and obnoxious scents, so I kept sampling this and thinking "what is the big deal?"
Now I get it.
It brings others to their knees without even trying.
Equestre
Being fairly new to this website and perfume in general, I'm not sure I can leave concise feedback about the notes etc, but I will say this -
a) I do not regret this blind-buy, and
b) my mother, who is NOT fond of perfumes, said 'it's lovely'. Winner!

xJessax
Anyways, I ordered a 30 ml online during my birthday, in late June, having never smelled it before. My first Guerlain! The juice is the most delicate baby pink, along with the packaging with the blue tassel, just looking at the bottle makes me swoon! It opens with BURST of bitter bergamot and orange, at first, I was instantly overwhelmed. Upon reading rave reviews and literally daydreaming over the caramel, vanilla, and tonka bean notes, I surely thought it would turn out to be an *expensive* gourmand.(reminiscent of Prada Candy or Viktor & Rolf BonBon...) Boy, was I wrong! And I've never been more glad! The scent is something completely unique and special on it's own. Without looking at the notes, I would say I definitely get a whole lot of Iris, something floral, powdery, and timeless! As the scent settles on the skin... something profound happens. The vanilla comes out, as if it was hiding behind a mask the whole time! Dreamy, smooth, classy, powdery vanilla. It gives the scent body and warmth. The caramel however... no where to be found. It may be my chemistry, but the scent itself from beginning to end gives off a vintage ''makeup'' vibe.... which is somehow, very nostalgic to me! It won't be everyone's cup of tea. Behind the beautiful iconic Shalimar bottle, there's something new here. I sort of wish this scent wasn't a flanker, but rather, something completely different on it's own. New name, new outwardly appearance, same gorgeous juice... if only, right? Oh well.. Shalimar PI, I adore you. Heres to making my perfume journey a magnificent one. I will gladly use PI until the very last drop... which I will hold deep to my heart! <3
*Edit: Scent itself: 8/10!
Longevity~ 7-8 hours on me
Sillage~ Moderate

gatsby

soleia
I have to say, Shalimar Parfum Initial does not remind me at all of its relatives. It never did and I did not buy it based on that assumption. But I liked it in its own right and the bottle is oh so pretty. Rumours of discontinuation helped too.
One year afterwards, I can say that the dry-down is still my favourite part: fluffy, powdery and warm. However, I am afraid that the opening is the reason why I have stopped wearing it: on me, it's 45 minutes of plastic/playdoh scent, essentially the "doll's head" effect that another reviewer mentioned. I am not sure which combination of notes produces that result, but there it is. Otherwise, it is sweet (not overly so) and fluffy (did I mention that already?). Longevity is very good and sillage is moderate (but I am an under-sprayer).
I haven't given it away yet, as I generally like it and feel I might grow past that opening. And the bottle looks good!

Michylaka
I find Parfum Initial to be vibrant and bold yet soft and dreamy. A wondrous olfactory journey. I think of youth and what I imagine cherubs may smell like. The sillage fills a room with a minimal spritz and the longevity is over six hours. I initially bought a used half bottle and ended up picking up a back up that is almost full as well because I love this one with a passion. It reminds me of Chanel No. 5 Eau Premiere but it is much more heady and complex. It is unfortunate they discontinued this. I give Shalimar Parfum Initial a 10/10++++.

perfumeaddiction
Great fall/winter scent. A true beauty.

Veronica85

BlackIrishRose

Strange_Alchemy

ChelleBelle84
Oh yeah, there are still bottles to be had online, IF they're authentic. Once those bottles start to dwindle down, prices will sky rocket. To say I'm angry is putting it mildly! I'm getting quite tired of discontinuation of fragrances. If it is not the IFRA, it's perfume snobs trash mouthing fragrances to discontinuation taking people's joy away. The cruelest and meanest thing you can do to a fellow perfumista. I could not wear the original Shalimar. I suppose those posting horrible reviews didn't think about that, did you? I could wear this. Well now, "MY" Shalimar is gone. So very glad you still have your original Shalimar and not have to feel disappointment as I (and others) feel. Please remember it's not all about you when posting reviews.
[cries]

Mojan
Mr. Wasser, Shalimar Parfum Initial for me is the extract of love, beauty, seduction, kindness, happiness, harmony and perfection blended masterfully with your magic hands and poured in a bottle. I could have lived happily with only this one scent for the rest of my life if I had to. I imagine myself swimming in this perfume, I imagine myself being in paradise and having wings with this perfume. This is the only perfume I have stocked up greedily so as to postpone the day I'd be without this masterpiece in my life. This is one of your greatest creations if not The Greatest. Shalimar Parfum Initial was your love letter sent to modern women and your artist soul has been succeeded to convey your feelings so beautifully and so masterfully. I'd be forever thankful to you for presenting your love to us and also for making my day more beautiful by wearing it. I know you are as sad as we are to see it go away, but let us just hope they would realize they have made a mistake and bring it back to us. Not everything is profit after all.

lotus and jasmine
I sprayed this and thought, sweet...but kind of interesting. A few minutes later I had the experience that I always envied when I heard about it from other Fragranticans: I was walking around, smelling something AMAZING, and realized that it was me!
Sweet, surprisingly woody, perfectly spiced, warmly citric, this is iris at it's best, both deep and rich, soft and warm, velvety with a touch of edge. Just remarkable. Utterly divine, definitely wearable. The first scent I've ever experienced that I found romantic in nature.
This is one for candlelight dinners, cuddles in cashmere, the sort of scent that tells the one you're with that you think they are special, and so you wear this scent for their enjoyment. Because you love them so.
Try this one. It may surprise you!
malindajoquinn
This scent is warm, powdery and bright. Soft and fuzzy like a cashmere sweater.
Absolutely beautiful.

corkscrewcurly
I read your review of YSL Cinema earlier today; here's an extract:
"This is my go to juice when I want to invite a chick to my pad. Women love this scent and this is like baby making juice in a bottle.
I usually play Adele in the background when chicks come over, and display my recycling bins right at the entrance, in full view, and oh sweet baby Jaysus are they impressed. Works great on exotic foreign girls too, so don't worry if their immigration documentation is current or not, it's all good.
This scent is a nice woody masculine scent, close to RL Polio pour homme.
For American girls I pair this with pizza/merlot but for the foreign chicks I've found fried cous cous works better with carbonated bottled water.
Guys, trust me this is a huge panty hose dropper and so be careful.
Rating: A+
Longevity: All night long, we're talking performance here.
Projection: 6 inches (I'm told that's about average; besides women say men worry more about that stuff than women do)."
It was so ridiculous, I checked out the rest of your reviews and discovered that most of them have this theme - as does this review of PI.
Presumably you are writing these "reviews" for your own entertainment; I doubt very much anyone else is entertained as you keep repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over...
This isn't funny; it is just tiresome, juvenile and boring - and potentially offensive.
Please stop.

wesleyhclark
Look - there's my wife's Guerlain Shalimar Parfum Initial sitting on the bathroom sink. One spray, that's all. It's a powdery vanilla Guerlain; I'm sure that might be good. Smells good on her. Why not? One spray.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
Well. I won't ever make that mistake again.
p.s. It smells terrific on my wife, where it belongs.

Meremere
I've come back to it three times, because surely my sense of smell must be broken.
To my nose, this opens with a primordial SCREAM of butane citrus with a dab of car exhaust. It makes me scrunch my nose in recoil and cough. Then the drydown is a synthetic lemon/floral/powder leftover from 1910.
For me, this is Dante's 4th ring of perfume hell.

redskyatnight
The first spritz and drydown of Parfum Initial are a little scary with a sort of haunting, icy blue iris and deep musk. Then the caramel warms things up, its salty aspect speaking to the chilly top notes but drawing them into warmer, tamer lands. The powder accord is unlike anything else I've experienced, lending a smoky, incense-ash quality. For the first half hour, the whole thing has a Victorian boudoir aura, complete with velvet accents, damask wallpaper, and lots of maroon and dark wood everywhere. Then it lightens and becomes chic and modern, yet timelessly beautiful. It's warm and powdery with a little mystery.
Completely a winter or late fall scent to me, for a mature woman (insert your own definition for that) or, I might say, a maturing woman. For the first half hour it has the potential for offending as much as tempting, so wear prudently. Personally I have a hard time with musk, but this is the first truly musky fragrance I've been okay with. I spray on the decollete so it gently wafts up and leaves me in a wonderful mood. After a few days of wearing this, I have fallen in love. So. Hard.

francie79
*EDIT* I had to part ways with this scent for it started giving me queasy migraines for it's just *soooo* strong. Even one spray was too much and I may try the edt version of this at some point.

Jitterbug Perfume Lover
The original Shalimar is one of my signature scents. It’s heady and beautiful and nothing in this world compares to it. I was anxious to try the Parfum Initial because I thought it might be a lighter, fresh version of one of my all-time favorites. I am sorry to say that this didn’t work for me at all. It reminded me of a quote from David Sedaris, “The food was horrible, and there was so little of it!” because the perfume was awful on my skin and it didn’t last at all!
In my imagination, I was ready to stroll through the gardens of Shalimar in the afternoon, with a light sexy perfumed breeze blowing through my hair enveloped by the smell of citrus trees lightly warmed in the sun, but I feel like I’ve traveled there by being trapped in a car with Hunter S. Thompson and Audrey Tautou smoking clove cigarettes and drinking spiced rum straight all night while speeding through the desert.
The boozy vanilla and the smokey wood with the cloves, iris and rose turned this into the ashes of clove cigarettes on my skin. I sampled it three times with the same result each time and this lasted an hour. Then for a quick 30 minutes it became a divine but very faint carmel rose smokey vanilla, but I just couldn’t endure the hour of clove ashes to get there! I might keep this until the winter to see if anything changes, but most likely, I will end up swapping it out. I am so sad that this didn’t work for me. I truly wanted to love it.
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